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DMR Pirates

Posted: 25 Sep 2020, 20:54
by Werthers
Has anybody noticed strange DMR I.D's pop up on your radio or people using other peoples DMR I.D's?

They say there are no pirates or keyers on DMR?

Re: DMR Pirates

Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 01:09
by 26mb04
I haven't noticed personally, but you can use whatever DMR ID you want to. ID spoofing will always be an issue, but then you could equally just start saying someone else's callsign in regular voice too. The only way around it would be to enforce a one-time programmable IMEI-style ID which is burned into the firmware and cannot be changed. Then you'd need a centralised registry of those too.

Re: DMR Pirates

Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 16:31
by SgtBilko302
You can't use whatever ID you want on DMR. You have to register your callsign and an ID is assigned to you.
If someone else is using your ID, either you gave it to them or they've used you callsign to check online what your ID is. The other possibility is you've sold a DMR radio and forgot to reset it and left your ID and callsign on the software.

Paul.

Re: DMR Pirates

Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 18:53
by 26mb04
I've been using DMR id 1234 since last year. Granted, I can't use most repeaters, but simplex is fine.

Re: DMR Pirates

Posted: 27 Sep 2020, 21:19
by radiosification
SgtBilko302 wrote: 27 Sep 2020, 16:31 You can't use whatever ID you want on DMR. You have to register your callsign and an ID is assigned to you.
If someone else is using your ID, either you gave it to them or they've used you callsign to check online what your ID is. The other possibility is you've sold a DMR radio and forgot to reset it and left your ID and callsign on the software.

Paul.
Technically you can use whatever ID you want. I could look up anyone's callsign, find their DMR ID and type it into my radio's programming software. There is nothing stopping me from doing that (except on brandmeister if they enable the callsign security feature). I believe this is what the person you replied to was trying to say - that you can use whichever ID you want to and there is nothing checking it.

Re: DMR Pirates

Posted: 28 Sep 2020, 12:18
by SgtBilko302
I don't use DMR but know the basics. I didn't know about the security feature on the BM system.
Like i said if the person knew you callsign and looked up online, they could pirate using your ID.

Paul.