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G callsigns for those passing Full exam

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This is interesting from southgatearc.org:

G callsigns for those passing Full exam

Ofcom allows those who pass the amateur radio Full exam to select a callsign from the old G and M call blocks including G3, G4, G5 and M5

In recent weeks a number of those passing their online remote invigilation Full exam have chosen to take the opportunity to get one of these callsigns. It requires paying a fee of £20 but enables amateurs to get a call suffix with letters that are meaningful to them.

G or M + 3 letter calls for a Full licence can be obtained from Ofcom by filling in a paper application form and giving your three preferred choices of callsign.
The form, OfW346, can be downloaded from the Ofcom website at
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... OfW346.pdf

See under Amateur Radio Licensees -> Postal Application at
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your-li ... ng-service

Ref: http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2020/n ... l-exam.htm
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Dont quote me exactly but this has been available since 2018 I believe, as I understand short calls so those with 2 trailing letters were stopped from being reissued last year but you can certainly get an old G * + 3 Letters.

I have become a Full licensee recently and have become GW5NIC.

On the other hand however I have recieved quite a lot of negative feedback from the ( Senior ) operators who think that its disrespectfull the reissuing of callsigns, a lengthy conversation ensued where I lost the argument, sorry gave up the argument. It really has caused quite a stir certainly more than I was expecting.

Would I change my call however........ Hell NO.
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joshovpandy wrote: 21 Nov 2020, 21:34 Dont quote me exactly but this has been available since 2018 I believe, as I understand short calls so those with 2 trailing letters were stopped from being reissued last year but you can certainly get an old G * + 3 Letters.

I have become a Full licensee recently and have become GW5NIC.

On the other hand however I have recieved quite a lot of negative feedback from the ( Senior ) operators who think that its disrespectfull the reissuing of callsigns, a lengthy conversation ensued where I lost the argument, sorry gave up the argument. It really has caused quite a stir certainly more than I was expecting.

Would I change my call however........ Hell NO.
I have a funny feeling you could be right actually, and it was only after I posted it that I thought the same as you! I noticed the information posted an a number of places online as a new news item and that's why it caught my attention.

Yes, I have read the negative responses from some quarters as well, and I can understand to a certain extent why people complain and are frustrated by the lack of consistency displayed by OFCOM in recent years, and the distinct lack of interest, more than anything in actually applying their enforcement powers for example, when they should, but are happy to use their valuable resources for this type of thing.

Ha, ha, I am starting to sound like them now - moan, moan, moan!

Personally I have no desire for a 'vanity' call but I can understand that some calls are 'easier' when on the key, or if you wanted a call for nostalgic reasons etc and good luck to them I say!

I do not drive, but if I did I would not want a personalised number plate either but would not criticise those who think it's a good idea.

Oh, by the way, well done getting your full call :thumbup:
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Thanks for the kind words on my Full license, yeah I have also seen the news being posted lately by Soutgate ARC being one. It is certainly not a new thing though, maybe there has just been a rise giving popularity.

Licenses being reissued on the other hand is no new issue neither after doing some research some licenses I see have been issued up to 3 times G2 and G5's from my personal research of this topic, and may I add not just to family members of the original call.

I have delved quite deep to ascertain if my call has previously been used however I cant find no information to say it has. I have emailed collectors of G5 series QSL cards, to which many have replied and confirmed they do not have anything with my call and I scoured the internet to no avail. Mine is a little diffrent to most other calls as the G5 + 3 Letter calls were issued between the years of 1966-1981 and originally issued to foreign nationals as a form of reciprocal ham radio licence. They were all withdrawn and either they used existing home calls with additional UK prefix / callsign, or if applicable they could apply for a UK licence. the complication does not end there however G5AAA-G5DZZ were used for Class A's and permitted operation on HF bands
G5NAA-G5ZZZ were used for Class B's and permitted operation on 144 MHz and above.

Thats why I am finding it difficult to come across any Qsl cards etc as it was a Class B license 144+ and does not feature in the international callbooks for them years. The possibility of the original overseas visitor who may have held this callsign still being alive is quite high as it was likely to have been issued in the early 70s if at all it was.

Talk about rambling, I started now!

If anybody has any information for me mind I would be very greatfull

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Are they actually reissuing calls of old actual people, or just calls which weren't issued fir whatever reasons during their run?

I know that sometimes people have their relatives callsigns issued to themselves when they pass etc, but I am not sure how I'd feel about putting on some dead man's shoes, especially a stranger. Seems disrespectful....
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It could be either way I believe.

A good example that I have referenced before is the callsign G5YL, this has been 'owned' by 3 amateurs in total.

First by a guy called Benjamin Hesketh in the 1920's and then Miss P.E.M. Bryan in the 1930's and now it is 'owned' by a lady called Krystyna Haywood.

Her QRZ page is here if you want to see the interesting and fascinating history attached to this callsign and how she asked OFCOM for it and it was granted:

https://www.qrz.com/DB/G5YL

I know what you are saying though and it's not something I am personally interested in doing.
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I have recently spoken to a Gentleman who has a G2 Callsign of which has been reissued on 3 occasions neither of them being family / related in any way.

This has gone on for a number of years it is certainly not a new procedure, I would be more than happy for my callsign to be reused after I pop my clogs. If someone will get happiness from it or if the intials are of significance to them I would like to think it will live on and cause someone else enjoyment for the next generation.

I would think that if the family has any concerns they would take the call on themselves and if they are not ham radio operators I struggle to understand their concern. They could gift the call to local clubs or freinds if they so wished.
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There’s quite a lively discussion about this on HRD at the moment.

Again, I think if a call hasn't been issued before then no issues, crack on. If someone has an issue with that then thats entirely their issue and if they wont speak to you because of that then its probably not gunna be someone you’ll moss speaking to anyway.

Bottom line is that due to its popularity (which should be celebreated actually), we will eventually tun out of call signs anyway and have to start re-issueing at some stage.

Crack on, pay your wedge, choose your call. :thumbup:
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