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Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 15:46
by skw
Hi, does anyone know a list of pager frequencies for like fire service.

I think 147.8 Mhz is a pager, weird sounds, normally around 6-7PM every evening I hear.

I happen to know some fire services test they're pagers around these times.

Thanks.

RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 15:48
by iansradios
pagers are on several vhf and uhf freqs it all depends on the operating site of your area but theres not just fire on there theres hundreds of users.

RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 15:53
by skw
Okay, does anyone have an idea on what the fire paging freqs are? Can you only here the paging sound (http://www.kb9ukd.com/digital/pocsag5.wav) when they're transmitting?

Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 17:29
by crusty
skwales100 wrote:Okay, does anyone have an idea on what the fire paging freqs are? Can you only here the paging sound (http://www.kb9ukd.com/digital/pocsag5.wav) when they're transmitting?
As Iansradios has already mentioned it depends where you live, most systems (fire etc) use different frequencies up and down the country. Here's the frequencies I have listed:

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137.9750		Nationwide Page One (Ex Mercury) Ch2 
138.0750		Vodazap 
138.1500 		Vodazap 
138.1750 		Nationwide Page One (Ex Mercury) Ch1  
153.0750 		Nationwide Paging 
153.1250 		Nationwide BT Pagers  
153.1500 		Nationwide BT Pagers  
153.1750 		Nationwide BT Pagers  
153.2375 		Nationwide BT Pagers  
153.2500 		Vodazap 
153.2750 		Nationwide Aircall Comms 
153.3250 		Nationwide Aircall Comms 
153.3375 		Nationwide Paging  
153.3500 		Nationwide Page One (Ex Mercury) Ch3 
153.3625 		Nationwide Paging  
153.3750 		Nationwide Paging  
153.4500 		Nationwide Paging  
153.8250 		Northern Ireland Air Page  
454.0750 		Nationwide Aircall Voice  
454.2000 		Nationwide Medical Pagers 
454.2375 		Northern Ireland Hospitals  
454.6750 		Nationwide Millicomm Paging 
454.7750  	Nationwide Aircall Paging  
454.8250  	Nationwide PageBoy Paging  
466.0750  	Nationwide Hutchison Paging 
Put some legwork in and find the service you are interested in. If you're too lazy, try asking in the regional forum for your area.

Crusty.

RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 17:59
by skw
Thanks for the list, frequency 147.8 I'm getting the pager. I searched in google and the only thing relating to this frequency was Humberside Fire Alert pager. I also downloaded a spreadsheet from Proma called scanwales march 2006 or something and that frequency came up as Gwent Fire pagers.

Also, would you only here the pager noise if they are transmitting?

EDIT:

Searched Proma website and it says National Fire Brigade Alerter Paging - national usage.

How do they work this if it's national?

What's the range on these pagers?

RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 18:19
by crusty
In the case of national systems they use a repeater network that boosts and re-transmits the signal across many beacons (repeaters) nationally. Don't assume the proma freq' are accurate as may be out of date, and many utility services are shifting their com's to secure networks.

Crusty.

EDIT: Can I ask why you are so interested in the Fire Service?

RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 18:28
by skw
Fire Service - Because they are the only main ones I know around here that use it.

What about Close Call scanners, if someone was near a pager that was going off would they be able to pick it up?

Re: RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 18:40
by kc
skwales100 wrote: What about Close Call scanners, if someone was near a pager that was going off would they be able to pick it up?
Close Call only works on transmitters not receivers.

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 21:34
by fez
mid and west wales fire do have pagers but they arnt really used. As they get their jobs at base from a small printer. And if they are out they sometimes get info via their radio.
They do state they are available via pager or mobile but decoding the pager at the right time and freq for you to get the message would be very rare.
Ive also looked for what pager freq ambo uses but I also can't find it. There isnt really much info on scanner based info for mid/west wales.

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 21:50
by skw
The retained lot get called by means of they're pager. Bleeps and lights get activated for a real incident and differant tone beeps and lights activated for a test every evening.

If real incident they rush to base, as you said get the print out and then off they go.

What I was wondering was if you could pick up the pager tones if they're pager was activated.

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 22 Jun 2008, 23:34
by crusty
The short answer is yes but they are probably just short alphanumeric sequences, identifying them amongst the rest of the traffic would be very difficult unless you can tie it to an event.

Crusty.

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 10:05
by fez
yes and also it won't give you any info on the job they are going to.

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Pagers

Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 15:43
by skw
I dont want info for the job. I was just curious as I have two fire fighters (Retained) living about 300 yards away from me. So then when they get a call I can try and confirm the new local callsign which im still not 100% certain on.

If I wanted info on the jobs then I'd listen to they're radio - they give plenty of info including grid referance which you can convert o a postcode and there we go, you know the exact location.

So basically I want to confirm my call sign and need to know when they go out on a job to do this.

Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 15:54
by fez
ask him? :D

Posted: 23 Jun 2008, 16:44
by skw
Well, I would but not got the gutts too. They might be a bit erm thing with it. Not sure how to word it.