Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

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Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby cooper » 10 Oct 2017, 16:35

Hello all, just added a decal to an old Mckinley,thinking of coating the whole bezel with a clear coat lacquer for added protection,has anyone tried this? could the decal react to the lacquer? any thoughts welcomed.

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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby speeddemon » 10 Oct 2017, 17:47

Hi cooper use light misted coats of clear ie build up clear top coat slowly and allow to dry In between coats you.should be fine n gd to go. Pce n 73's

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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby kilimax » 10 Oct 2017, 18:08

cooper wrote:Hello all, just added a decal to an old Mckinley,thinking of coating the whole bezel with a clear coat lacquer for added protection,has anyone tried this? could the decal react to the lacquer? any thoughts welcomed.


If the faceplate is a recent one from Ray, it will already be laminated to provide added protection so not sure the lacquer is needed.
However, if you do decide to add lacquer, while I don't think it will react, if you have just recently applied the faceplate, I would leave it for a good week or so to ensure it has completely dried.

I have a number of faceplates from Ray and I've always found them to be very durable as they are.
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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby speeddemon » 10 Oct 2017, 19:32

Hi cooper. Https://youtu.be/apw9pxyg8qo https://youtu.be/4ozlupxkpqo or Google videos by commando designs or diy auto school. Cheers n 73's

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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby cooper » 11 Oct 2017, 08:09

Thanks for the replies and info gents, i shall leave it to dry for a week before deciding if to lacquer or not :thumbup:
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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby The Collector » 11 Oct 2017, 17:09

If the decal has any "thickness to it" a knock to it could cause the paint to flake off if it hasn't fully bonded to its surface. As mentioned above, Ray offers his fronts with or without an extra protective layer so with one it should cope with gentle everyday wear and tear.

Unless you're planning on stabbing the radio out of boredom, I wouldn't have thought you'd have needed a spray coat on top. Go carefully as described above with lots of thin coats if you do.

Watch what lacquer you use too as cellulose may melt it whereas acrylic should be a safer bet.

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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby cooper » 11 Oct 2017, 18:19

[quote="The Collector"]If the decal has any "thickness to it" a knock to it could cause the paint to flake off if it hasn't fully bonded to its surface. As mentioned above, Ray offers his fronts with or without an extra protective layer so with one it should cope with gentle everyday wear and tear.

Unless you're planning on stabbing the radio out of boredom, I wouldn't have thought you'd have needed a spray coat on top. Go carefully as described above with lots of thin coats if you do.

Watch what lacquer you use too as cellulose may melt it whereas acrylic should be a safer bet.[/quote

I thought a coat of lacquer might help to seal the edges of the decal to prevent it lifting,not sure how strong the adhesive is on these decals?

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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby Stronty » 11 Oct 2017, 19:42

I used quite a few "thin coats" of lacquer when I did my Adams. It provided a nice coating and it tough. I made sure it was bone dry between each coat.

Gamma Ray are fantastic Decals. Still have a Silver Adams somewhere.
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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby andymuza » 11 Oct 2017, 20:20

cooper wrote:Hello all, just added a decal to an old Mckinley,thinking of coating the whole bezel with a clear coat lacquer for added protection,has anyone tried this? could the decal react to the lacquer? any thoughts welcomed.


When you ordered the decal did you not get the protective coating on it?
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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby cooper » 12 Oct 2017, 07:58

andymuza wrote:
cooper wrote:Hello all, just added a decal to an old Mckinley,thinking of coating the whole bezel with a clear coat lacquer for added protection,has anyone tried this? could the decal react to the lacquer? any thoughts welcomed.


When you ordered the decal did you not get the protective coating on it?


I`m not sure Andy {bnghd}

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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby cooper » 12 Oct 2017, 08:01

Stronty wrote:I used quite a few "thin coats" of lacquer when I did my Adams. It provided a nice coating and it tough. I made sure it was bone dry between each coat.

Gamma Ray are fantastic Decals. Still have a Silver Adams somewhere.
Maurer Adams.jpgmaurer1.jpgmaurer3.jpg


Looking good :thumbup:

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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby mrpsychopath » 12 Oct 2017, 08:12

Is that a 4 band adams with fm, i likey. Whats full spec if you dont mind.
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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby The Collector » 12 Oct 2017, 17:11

cooper wrote:
andymuza wrote:
cooper wrote:Hello all, just added a decal to an old Mckinley,thinking of coating the whole bezel with a clear coat lacquer for added protection,has anyone tried this? could the decal react to the lacquer? any thoughts welcomed.


When you ordered the decal did you not get the protective coating on it?


I`m not sure Andy {bnghd}


If it hasn't it'll be like a sheet of paper and be quite floppy, especially once you remove the backing. Holding it horizontally between 2 fingers at one end it'll perhaps flop down 90degrees.

If it's got the laminated covering it'll feel more like a thin piece of plastic or card and be less flexible. Holding that horizontally between 2 fingers at one end it'll probably only drop about 45degrees.

I haven't got both to compare but that'll hopefully give you an indication.

If you're still not sure, maybe you can contact Ray and he'll probably be able to tell you what he sent you if his records are good ;)

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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby andymuza » 12 Oct 2017, 18:28

cooper wrote:
andymuza wrote:
cooper wrote:Hello all, just added a decal to an old Mckinley,thinking of coating the whole bezel with a clear coat lacquer for added protection,has anyone tried this? could the decal react to the lacquer? any thoughts welcomed.


When you ordered the decal did you not get the protective coating on it?


I`m not sure Andy {bnghd}


How much did you pay for the decal, the decals cost extra with the protective coating on. If your decal already has the coating then they won't need to be lacquered.
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Re: Gamma Ray decals and clear coat lacquer

Postby kilimax » 12 Oct 2017, 18:41

andymuza wrote:
cooper wrote:
andymuza wrote:
When you ordered the decal did you not get the protective coating on it?


I`m not sure Andy {bnghd}


How much did you pay for the decal, the decals cost extra with the protective coating on. If your decal already has the coating then they won't need to be lacquered.


As far as I am aware, all of Rays decals now come laminated. It used to be a couple of $s extra. Certainly, any ones I have bought this year have been and having just checked his website, he states that clear lamination is included.
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